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β€˜Showbiz!’ entertainer Murray Hill became what he didn’t see

πŸ“Ί Fresh Air πŸ• October 6, 2026 at 5:40 PM
πŸ“ Source based in: World β€Ί Northern Hemisphere β€Ί North America β€Ί United States

Keeps playing with the screen off. The episode is played from Fresh Air’s own podcast host.

Murray Hill’s character on HBO’s Somebody Somewhere, Fred Rococo, is a soil scientist trans man who hosts a queer cabaret. β€œ[He] is me dialed down to like a 2,” he tells Terry Gross. In real life, Murray has hosted drag king shows, queer cabarets, burlesque shows and performed his own act. He spoke with Terry Gross about finding and building his community, forgiveness, and how anti-trans rhetoric and policy has affected him. His new memoir is Showbiz! My Life as a Middle-Aged Man.

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